Fate of Kenyan students

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The fate of our engineering students being denied in Kenya.

ERB,Engineering Registration Board deny to accredit 47 courses in Kenya.

The fate of the students pursuing some of the engineering disciplines in Kenya, got a setback after their respective disciplines were declared null and void by the Engineering registration Board of Kenya.This was subject to submission of the courses for accreditation mid last year by each respective universities. It came after a renewed exercise by Kenyan government to its education sector with the aim of realizing of vision 2030.

The board said the degrees were rejected because of their poor eminence curriculum, lack of lecturers, replication of the programmes,and lack of expert focus on the various degrees offered by this universities.The board also cited that some of the offered courses were being conducted by technicians and other less qualified staff.

List of undergraduate engineering programmes not accredited by the engineering registration board include:

University of Nairobi

Bachelor of Science in Environmental and Bio-systems Engineering

Moi University

1. Bachelor of Engineering in Agriculture and Bio-systems Engineering
2. Bachelor of Engineering in Manufacturing, Industrial and Textile Engineering
3. Bachelor of Engineering in Computer Engineering
4. Bachelor of Science in Electrical Apparatus and Systems
5. Bachelor of Engineering in Telecommunication Engineering

Kenyatta University

1. Bachelor of Science in Energy Engineering
2. Bachelor of Science in Manufacturing Engineering
3. Bachelor of Water Engineering
4. Bachelor of construction Engineering
5. Bachelor of Science in Civil and Water Engineering
6. Bachelor of Science in Electrical and Telecommunication Engineering
7. Bachelor of Mechanical and Energy Engineering
8. Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering

Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology

1. Bachelor of Science in Telecommunication and Information Engineering
2. Bachelor of Science in Electronic and Computer Engineering
3. Bachelor of Science in Materials and Metallurgical Engineering
4. Bachelor of Science in Bio-mechanical and Processing Engineering
5. Bachelor of Science in Soil, Water and Environmental Engineering
6. Bachelor of Science in Mining and Mineral Engineering

Egerton University

1. Bachelor of Science in Instrumentation and Control Engineering
2. Bachelor of Science in Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering
3. Bachelor of Science in Civil and Environmental Engineering
4. Bachelor of Technology in Civil Engineering
5. Bachelor of Technology in Mechanical Engineering
6. Bachelor of Technology in Industrial Technology
7. Bachelor of Science in Water and Environmental Engineering
8. Bachelor of Science in Telecommunication Engineering
9. Bachelor of Science in Electrical and Control Engineering

Kimathi University College of Technology

1. Bachelor of Science in Telecommunication and Information Engineering
2. Bachelor of Science in Mechatronic Engineering
3. Bachelor of Science in Electrical and Electronics Engineering.
4. Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering

Masinde Muliro University of Science & Technology

1. Bachelor of Technology in Production Technology
2. Bachelor of Technology in Electrical and communication Engineering
3. Bachelor of Technology in Civil and Structural Engineering

Kenya Methodist University

Bachelor of Technology in Civil Engineering

University of Eastern Africa, Baraton

Bachelor of Technology in Automotive Engineering

Daystar University

Bachelor of Science in Electronic Engineering

Mombasa Polytechnic University College

1. Bachelor of Engineering in Building and Civil Engineering
2. Bachelor of Engineering in Mechanical Engineering
3. Bachelor of Engineering in Telecommunication and Information Engineering
4. Bachelor of Engineering in Electrical and electronics Eng
5. Bachelor of Engineering in Instrumentation and Automation Engineering

Kenya Polytechnic University College

1. Bachelor of Engineering in Electrical and Electronics Eng
2. Bachelor of Technology in Electrical and Electronics Eng

With all this then where thus the future of our Kenyan engineers lie.A traumatizing question that is in the mind of each affected kenyan.

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author avatar ERICK
15th Mar 2011 (#)

Hope this will be pf more important and resourceful to all of you.

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author avatar Mark Gordon Brown
18th Mar 2011 (#)

wow that is a shame for those students.

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author avatar Sammy mwangi
24th Mar 2011 (#)

shame on you for thinking shallowly.

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author avatar Brian sibanda
17th Apr 2011 (#)

With all due respect sir/madam , i dont understand how on earth you can say shame to the affected student . You dont sound degreed to me .

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author avatar Tony
20th Oct 2011 (#)

shame on you for

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author avatar ERICK
18th Mar 2011 (#)

Too much shame is also to the Kenya government that, as not only failed Kenyans but its key drivers of the economy.The Kenyan government is supposed to produce !5000 engineers for them to realize vision 2030.This is according to a survey that was carried out recently.

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author avatar Sammy mwangi
24th Mar 2011 (#)

I dont understand why someone should say shame on the students.You are being very unfair Mark.
I am a 3rd year student taking Energy engineering at Kenyatta University.I dont know what mistake i made besides choosing one of the courses advertised by the Joint Admissions Board. Believe me there is no problem with the course content and as for the lecturers we may not have enough fulltime lecturers and thats why we use part timers.I am currently being taught 2 units by part timers from UON including the chairman Mechanical Engineering Dept,2 from Jkuat and the other 4 are full timers.This is politics and should be treated with contempt by all men of wisdom.If we have it our way, the board will be disbanded or reconstituted or else the government and the universities will take responsibility for the mess.

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author avatar Sylvia c
25th Jan 2012 (#)

i think a big shame goes to those who says shame to the student.what has the student done?please let us mature both in our senses and comments,,am suprised.

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author avatar Fina
27th Mar 2011 (#)

,This is so unfair how could u cam up with ths crap n allow studnts waste 5yrs studying do somethg abt it!! Coz brains r being wa,,,,

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author avatar Rathnashikamani
27th Mar 2011 (#)

Engineering registration Board of Kenya is unfair in declaring the disciplines as null and void.
Instead they should have gone for the corrective measures to make the disciplines worthy of pursuing.

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author avatar ERICK
7th Apr 2011 (#)

we are very much disappointed with the situation but hope to see some bright future from this body

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author avatar Rawls
19th Mar 2012 (#)

Hi. I have just completed high school and I intend to study electrical and electronic engineering in campus. Between UON and JKUAT which is better? I want a university that has enough resources in terms of books and lab equipment and internship connections. Thanks.

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author avatar Eugene odhiambo
1st Apr 2011 (#)

SHAME ON THE GVT AND THOSE WHO THINK THAT THE VICTIMS ARE WRONG.is it da students who come up who up with da courses?

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author avatar Eugene odhiambo
1st Apr 2011 (#)

So I as a form 4 leaver I shud not do those courses.this irresponsible.

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author avatar Okonji
2nd Apr 2011 (#)

this is very anoying 4 how can 2 arms of same govt be contradicting. for the sake of vision 2030 in kenya something has 2 b done very first

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author avatar Brian sibanda
17th Apr 2011 (#)

Engineers should be proparely trained at all costs . We should all remember that these are not Kenyean engineers only but their experience will be required worldwide . Lets not therefore expose the world to risky engineers . Thank you .

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author avatar Eng. Alex Ofio
8th Aug 2011 (#)

The same guys who claim that the sylabus is substandard are the same guys who made it and are the same guys who taught it... Further more Engineering is dynamic the same content that was there in the 70's has been overtake by time and technology so having the 70 mindset at the realm of Engineering in Kenya will only leave us with substandard. Think about that.

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author avatar Stinz
1st May 2011 (#)

Very bad situation for kenya,realy dissapointing.am tryn 2 deal with it coz it has affected me.it sucks

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author avatar Jimmie
19th May 2011 (#)

its shame on ol the unis offerin those courses..they r wastin us vry badly...KU,MMUST,JKUAT mko down

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author avatar Jeremy Mwangi
10th Jun 2011 (#)

Surely Mark,ur comment hurt me so much.U and ERB should b ashamed 4 undermining the future of Kenyan engineers.Try 2 think of 5yrs flashed to the drain,considering the challenging engineering course!!!Is this the way 2 realise vision 2030?

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author avatar Jeremy Mwangi
10th Jun 2011 (#)

Am short of wads 4 u Mark.All I can say 2 u and ur ERB mindsets is dat,u should b thoroughly ashamed!

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author avatar Cleve Mwebi
19th Jun 2011 (#)

Its quite unfair 4 those pursuing the affected courses. The government is to blame

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author avatar Denis
21st Jun 2011 (#)

What is the Government and the affected Universities doing because students are still being admitted to do the courses yet they are not recognized by the ERB. This is unfair.

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author avatar Morris
28th Jul 2011 (#)

Shame on the public universities 4 offering courses that are not recognized to innocent and determined students.

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author avatar Dennis ondieki
1st Aug 2011 (#)

Honestly speaking i think erb should be dis-bundled because they are specializing in some areas. they should know that vission 2030 can not be achieved if we cant accomodate all engineering courses. in israel they have cloud engineers then why not in kenya. I know people who have done these courses and they do make a lot of money, i think this is also one of the issues the erb is jealousy about. I as a KU computer eng. I believe in self creativity and reliance as our motto says. therefore my skills will talk rather than erb number.if they wont change their attitude then we welcome the idea of our VC of comming up with school of engineers in kenya, where by after finishing 5yr course one has to join for 1 yr for recognition so to hell with ERB.and by the way we can also go to court to sue them for their damages.Engineers of KU and other universities affected know that we are the future engineers so dont panic but have hope God bless.

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author avatar Eng. Alex Ofio
8th Aug 2011 (#)

I have done one of these courses and its really terrible that the university should subject us to 5 years of academics and huge amounts of tution fees yet when the board claims that our courses are not legit they dont say a work. Instead they ask as to go back to school, do a patch up course for a year, pay more so that we can convert our degrees to other accredited degrees... In my opinion, the ERB can go to hell, the school can follow it or get its act right and speak on behalf of its alumni and current students. I am an engineer at heart, the ERB can sue me for saying that.

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author avatar Eng kash
11th Aug 2011 (#)

It's a damn shame i have nothin but harsh feelings 4 erb n the kenyan gvt how can they crash hopes n drims like that. Bt 2 hell with them as far as i know ainstain said an engineer is an inventor who simply doest take education seriously, bt is willin 2 wak with the necessary resources.

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author avatar Henry Mutembei
16th Aug 2011 (#)

All engineering courses that have been rejected by EBS have been their 4 long time with students graduating;is this the first time that they(EBS) have realized that this courses are taught by incompetent lectures? and if their is anybody 2 be blamed,EBS is supposed 2 be blamed first!

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author avatar Lopusingiro paul
1st Oct 2011 (#)

shame to ERB why are they refusing some engineering programmes they should come and lecture..

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author avatar Tony
20th Oct 2011 (#)

I work so hard to get 'A' in all our engineering units. but now am starting to get discouraged. imagine five years of hard work being thrown to trash? its such a shame for the ERB. instead of diversifying the engineering field they are simply converging the into the old unit-oriented courses that are overtaken by time. when will kenyans ever do something to challenge the primitiveness of ERB? or are they going to continue wasting bright minds? thank God graduates in these courses still get jobs though with some limitations. China is currently offering more than 100 engineering course while ERB is very determined to register as few engineering courses as possible. Are these the guys who will facilitate vision 2030? We need as many engineers as possible in different fields to ensure vision 2030 is achieved. if they cannot take borrowed engineering course, why don't they formulate engineering courses and disburse them to the universities? as a student taking electrical and electronic engineering, I am very disappointed and discouraged and something have to be done. its either ERB be disbanded or universities to stop offering these courses at all.

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author avatar Tony
20th Oct 2011 (#)

i means china is offering more than 1000 course while ERB is very determined to register as few engineering course as possible. Where are they taking us?

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author avatar Eng.KANYAX
21st Oct 2011 (#)

Which is cheaper ; Importing an Eng.from. China for Thika highway or a lecturer for the so "substandard versties to offer Eng "

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author avatar KOWINO
6th Nov 2011 (#)

Having finished one of these unaccredited courses, I have had an opportunity to work in three different firms with my colleagues who were in the accredited programmes. what is shocking is that I am always the better engineer. Does ERB really know what it is talking about?
Having attained an A in high school, we were admitted by JAB to pursue these courses and even given a loan by HELB to do the same, how can the same government turn on us once we have finished.
Guys, if the government denies us the opportunity to use our brilliant minds to build this country, then we shall use them to destroy it. This is how the arab revolution started. watch this space!

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author avatar Simon
18th Nov 2011 (#)

It's quite astonishing n discouraging to find ERB taking such a measure towards their children! where to n I was already determined top pursue eng. at kenya poly! The best way was to settle down the case wit school head n stop discouraging students.

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author avatar Thady
29th Nov 2011 (#)

so guys ,what's next ? I feel like saying E.R.B must go ! E.R.B must go !

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author avatar Joseph
8th Dec 2011 (#)

I doing bachelor of science civil engineering at Mombasa poly and I am told that I am on the safe side but those doing bachelor of engineering is indicated that they will not be registered yet we are being taught by the same lecturers, the difference is only the time lessons are taught .I think the E.R.B is playing politics.

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author avatar ERICK
15th Dec 2011 (#)

Hello Guys, I am one of the victim. When I wrote this article, I felt that we are undermined and the way that ERB is treating us is like we are from Sudan. This is total irresponsibility and stupidness of of the highest order. We can't tolerate this any more and the Men who are up there should know and address our fate. They are dumping us. Let us not allow this to happen to us at all.....????

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author avatar ERICK
15th Dec 2011 (#)

Let us keep this space for our discussion.....

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author avatar OyaOya Squd!
18th Jan 2012 (#)

Am a student at MPUC undertaking a Bachelors Degree in Electrical & Electronics Eng. I jst wanna know kuna difference gani b2n BSc, Bachelor of Engieering na Bachelor of Technology! All these courses zafunzwa na the same lecturers kwa kila dept! Yani ERB inamaanisha ntadunga hizo mahesabu zooooooote kwa 5yrs halafu hawataniregister na Engineers Board! Kwani wao ndio akina nani? Wachunge xana nisipatane nao! Na watukome!

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author avatar Damaris
29th Feb 2012 (#)

thank God I didn't go for my dream course computer engineering n instead went for computer science! !!! a could have bn in thz mess too!!!!

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author avatar Ocharo Desmond
5th Mar 2012 (#)

I hereby write this notification with absolute disappointment on our mandated ERB,the reasons given seems real but now here is the question,the board nullifies B.ng course from a certain University and leaves Bsc course from the same University and the two course are taught by the same perceived incompetent lecturers,surely is there some reality in this?If they are incompetent then considering that they teach both B.ng and Bsc student at the same time,all the two courses should be rejected.
One thing is very clear,the board wants to maintain the status quo without considering diversification of Engineering course in Kenya,the option left is to compel the GOK to disband or reconstitute the board if it is real keen with vision 2030.

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author avatar Ron
7th Mar 2012 (#)

ERB.............!!!!!!!!!! am being wasted be clear on this matter

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author avatar Margret gechanga
7th Mar 2012 (#)

Being a victin in,B.Eng Elec.
E.R.B n JAB should come up wth the best way possible, of solving ths issue! JAB should provide registered courses only for selection by the new students!
Remember this is a waste of the HELB funds, energetic minds and precious time for 5yrs!

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author avatar Amani
19th Apr 2012 (#)

Am a high school leaver and i can't believe that this is true.Tell me which courses are registered cause my dream course telecommunication engineering seems to be on the dark side.oh My God.

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author avatar Dee
2nd May 2012 (#)

Phewx..thanx for this information.was planning to do telecommunication engineering.i can now change my mind

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author avatar Erica
7th May 2012 (#)

but on the brighter side....one can do TIE or telecommunication engineering for 5yrs and 4 months...so therz no need of giving up on ur dream career and if u rily love it u'd be willing to do nearly anything to get there .

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author avatar Njuguna Ndegwa
2nd May 2012 (#)

Dont worry we launched petitions in parliament and the high court..2moro the Hon Justice David Majanja is expected to recieve final submissions n give a final ruling date for our case, ERB proposed temporary registration during the last hearing by parliamentary committee on education but it refused n demanded a permanent solution, believe me we shall be registered n that board might be reconstituted to accomodate key ministries n universities offering this courses!! Kenya needs us more there are only 6000 reg engineers against a demand of 20000!

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author avatar Simatwa J.
28th Aug 2012 (#)

Not recognizing some courses by people who do not understand what they're doing is like stopping wind with your bare hands. You can't win. ERB has led down Kenyans and go around unashamedly praising work by mediocre foreign "engineers"!

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author avatar Eng. Okelloh
19th Oct 2012 (#)

ERB does not act soberly and needs a complete overhaul. there is noway one can say that he doesn't recognize what he doesn't understand in the first place. analyze before judging.

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author avatar Eng. kiprotich
8th Nov 2012 (#)

what a mess to us taking ABE at chepkoilel college???????

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author avatar Eng. kiprotich
8th Nov 2012 (#)

what a mess to us taking ABE at chepkoilel college???????

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author avatar Lilian
28th Dec 2012 (#)

I sure feel for the affected graduates knowing full well what it takes to earn a degree in engineering ...but the response of most of you here to one mark Gordon leaves alot to be desired coz none of you understands the meaning if the statement 'its a shame for the students '_well it doesn't mean the students should feel ashamed of themselves _guys look for what the statement really means or brush up your communication skills 101.guys if you dontunderstand simple English how will u convince someone you weren't offered sub standard degrees?

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author avatar Max
20th Jan 2013 (#)

Oh God
am graduate in Automotive Engineering diploma level my dream is to be an Eng.in future soon I want to join one of the university to do Bsc. industrial Engineering .....n hr that ERB is letting us down after all that hard work through college ...wat shall l do plzz.... my fellow Engineers

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author avatar Anthony
14th Jun 2014 (#)

If there is no bright future in those courses then they should be taken out of the universities or not to be offered.this is really dissapointing

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author avatar Bev
20th Jun 2015 (#)

what???I'm just a form four leaver planning to take TIE...Does this mean I'm going to waste a whole five years at the university?Come on ERB...you can't be this unfair..
But all in all...I don't have any plans of giving up..How I wish that you put these courses into consideration and accredit them..my future is at stake here

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author avatar Marya
2nd Jun 2017 (#)

Hi I have just completed highschool and am going to do control and instrumentation in jkuat .do I have a future or I'd just be trashed like this

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author avatar Marya
2nd Jun 2017 (#)

Hi I have just completed highschool and am going to do control and instrumentation in jkuat .do I have a future or I'd just be trashed like this

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